Thursday, April 28, 2011

Mexico wins again...oh hum!


            MLS is inferior…well that is what the stats tell us. The last 3 Champions
League era there have been 3 Mexican winners. To take it a step further of the 6 participants there has only been one MLS team (RSL). The CONCACAF Champions Cup (Champions League replace this) we have to all they way back to 2000 to find a MLS team in the Final (LA Galaxy) Wow…MLS is suffering an inferiority complex.
            Yes MLS has got better but I have been promised my the media since the 1994 World Cup the USA would be a power in soccer. Well we are no power in CONCACAF with the clubs…that goes to Mexico…..

So I sit and wait and pretend MLS games are better than the Mexican League games on the Spanish channel...I am kidding myself...and so are you.The Mexican clubs just do not want to hear this.

5 comments:

Lorric said...

Not only that, but no Mexican team has been eliminated by a non-Mexican team the last 3 years.

You may be interested in something I have been doing. I have been tracking the CCL and making UEFA style club coefficients for the teams and nations. I just finished updating in this years' results now. Take a look. You will at least see that MLS has shown significant improvement year on year.

The message is too big, so I'll try posting it in parts.

I haven't updated the allocations of places yet, I'll do that when the 4th CCL starts.

Lorric said...

A Coefficient for the CONCACAF Champions League

Key S1GS, Top Seed Group Stage, S2GS, 2nd Seed Group Stage,
LSGS, lower Seed Group Stage, SP - Seeded Preliminaries, UP - Unseeded Prelims.

Point allocations - Win - 2pts. Draw - 1pt.
Bonus points - 1 - Reach Quarter Final, 1 - Reach Semi Final, 1 - Reach Final.

Mexico - Current allocation - 4 clubs, 2 S1GS, 2SP
2008/2009: W23, D10, BP9 - 65/4 = 16.250
2009/2010: W31, D9, BP10 - 81/4 = 20.250
2010/2011: W25, D6, BP7 - 63/4 = 15.750
Total = 52.250

MLS - Current allocation - 4 clubs, 2 S1GS, 2SP
2008/2009: W2, D6, BP1 - 11/4 = 2.750
2009/2010: W7, D8, BP1 - 23/4 = 5.750
2010/2011: W13, D5, BP4 - 35/4 = 8.750
Total = 17.250

Caribbean - Current Allocation - 3 clubs, 3UP
2008/2009: W9, D3, BP2 - 23/3 = 7.667
2009/2010: W5, D6, BP0 - 16/3 = 5.333
2010/2011: W4, D4, BP0 - 12/3 = 4.000
Total - 17.000

Costa Rica - Current Allocation - 2 clubs, 1S2GS, 1SP
2008/2009: W3, D2, BP0 - 8/2 = 4.000
2009/2010: W2, D3, BP0 - 7/3 = 2.333
2010/2011: W6, D2, BP2 - 16/2 = 8.000
Total - 14.333

Honduras - Current Allocation - 2 clubs, 1S2GS, 1SP
2008/2009: W7, D4, BP1 - 19/2 = 9.500
2009/2010: W9, D0, BP1 - 19/3 = 6.333
2010/2011: W7, D2, BP1 - 17/3 = 5.667
Total - 21.500

Guatemala - Current Allocation - 2 clubs, 1S2GS, 1UP
2008/2009: W2, D3, BP0 - 7/2 = 3.500
2009/2010: W3, D1, BP1 - 8/2 = 4.000
2010/2011: W2, D3, BP0 - 7/2 = 3.500
Total - 11.000

El Salvador - Current Allocation - 2 clubs, 1S2GS, 1UP
2008/2009: W2, D3, BP0 - 7/2 = 3.500
2009/2010: W1, D2, BP0 - 4/2 = 2.000
2010/2011: W1, D4, BP0 - 6/2 = 3.000
Total - 8.500

Panama - Current Allocation - 2 clubs, 1SP, 1UP
2008/2009: W4, D5, BP0 - 13/2 = 6.500
2009/2010: W5, D1, BP1 - 12/2 = 6.000
2010/2011: W2, D0, BP0 - 4/3 = 1.333
Total - 13.833

Canada - Current Allocation - 1 club, SP
2008/2009: W5, D3, BP1 = 14.000
2009/2010: W0, D1, BP0 = 1.000
2010/2011: W3, D3, BP0 = 9.000
Total - 24.000

Nicaragua - Current Allocation -
2008/2009: W0, D1, BP0 = 1.000
2009/2010: N/A
2010/2011: N/A
Total - 1.000

Belize - Current Allocation -
2008/2009: W0, D0, BP0 = 0.000
2009/2010: N/A
2010/2011: N/A
Total - 0.000

Current Country Rankings

1. Mexico - 52.250
2. Canada - 24.000
3. Honduras - 21.500
4. United States - 17.250
5. Caribbean - 17.000
6. Costa Rica - 14.333
7. Panama - 13.833
8. Guatemala - 11.000
9. El Salvador - 8.500
10. Nicaragua - 1.000
11. Belize - 0.000

Lorric said...

Club Coefficients for CONCACAF Teams

Points gained, plus 20% of country Coefficient.

Cruz Azul (Mex) - 74.450 (24.250,29.050,21.150,,)
Universidad National (Mex) - 37.450 (15.250,19.050,3.150,,)
Santos Laguna (Mex) - 37.450 (16.250,4.050,17.150,,)
Pachuca (Mex) - 35.450 (3.250,29.050,3.150,,)
Monterrey (Mex) - 34.450 (3.250,4.050,27.150,,)
Puerto Rico Islanders (Car) - 34.400 (18.533,7.067,8.800,,)
Marathon (Hon) - 34.300 (14.900,12.267,7.133,,)
Toluca (Mex) - 33.450 (3.250,19.050,11.150,,)
Atlante (Mex) - 29.450 (22.250,4.050,3.150,,)
Saprissa (Crc) - 28.867 (7.800,4.467,16.600,,)
Olimpia (Hon) - 22.300 (7.900,3.267,11.133,,)
Real Salt Lake (USA) - 21.450 (0.550,1.150,19.750,,)
Columbus Crew (USA) - 21.450 (0.550,9.150,11.750,,)
Montreal Impact (Can) - 18.800 (16.800,0.200,1.800,,)
Houston Dynamo (USA) - 17.450 (9.550,6.150,1.750,,)
Toronto FC (Can) - 14.800 (2.800,1.200,10.800,,)
Arabe Unido (Pan) - 14.767 (0.800,11.700,2.267,,)
Tauro (Pan) - 13.767 (10.300,1.200,2.267,,)
DC United (USA) - 13.450 (1.550,10.150,1.750,,)
Joe Public (Car) - 13.400 (7.533,1.067,4.800,,)
Municipal (Gua) - 13.200 (5.700,0.800,6.700,,)
W Connection (Car) - 11.400 (1.533,9.067,0.800,,)
MEXICO - 10.450 (3.250,4.050,3.150,,)
Real Espana (Hon) - 10.300 (1.900,7.267,1.133,,)
Comunicaciones (Gua) - 10.200 (0.700,8.800,0.700,,)
Luis Angel Firpo (Els) - 9.700 (6.700,2.400,0.600,,)
San Francisco (Pan) - 8.767 (5.300,3.200,0.267,,)
Seattle Sounders FC (USA) - 8.450 (0.550,1.150,6.750,,)
FAS (Els) - 6.700 (0.700,0.400,5.600,,)
Isidro Metapan (Els) - 5.700 (1.700,2.400,1.600,,)
Los Angeles Galaxy (USA) - 5.450 (0.550,1.150,3.750,,)
San Juan Jabloteh (Car) - 5.400 (1.533,3.067,0.800,,)
Motagua (Hon) - 5.300 (1.900,1.267,2.133,,)
Liberia Mia (Crc) - 4.867 (0.800,2.467,1.600,,)
CANADA - 4.800 (2.800,0.200,1.800,,)
New York Red Bulls (USA) - 4.450 (0.550,2.150,1.750,,)
Chivas USA (USA) - 4.450 (1.550,1.150,1.750,,)
HONDURAS - 4.300 (1.900,1.267,1.133,,)
Jalapa (Gua) - 4.200 (2.700,0.800,0.700,,)
Brujas (Crc) - 3.867 (0.800,0.467,2.600,,)
Herediano (Crc) - 3.867 (0.800,1.467,1.600,,)
Alajuelense (Crc) - 3.867 (1.800,0.467,1.600,,)
UNITED STATES - 3.450 (0.550,1.150,1.750,,)
CARIBBEAN - 3.400 (1.533,1.067,0.800,,)
Xelaju (Gua) - 3.200 (0.700,0.800,1.700,,)
COSTA RICA - 2.867 (0.800,0.467,1.600,,)
PANAMA - 2.767 (1.300,1.200,0.267,,)
GUATEMALA - 2.200 (0.700,0.800,0.700,,)
EL SALVADOR - 1.700 (0.700,0.400,0.600,,)
Real Esteli (Ncr) - 1.200 (1.200,0.000,0.000)
NICARAGUA - 0.200 (1.000,0.000,0.000)
BELIZE - 0.000 - (0.000,0.000,0.000)

James Lagrange said...

My man...you have been busy. that is a lot of info to go over...thanks

Lorric said...

You're welcome.

It is amusing the Puerto Rico Islanders have outperformed everyone outside Mexico, and Montreal Impact have outperformed most of MLS.